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open discussion, project courses - Shared screen with speaker view
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD
20:54
Thank you for gathering us together, Elise!
Jennifer Hill, Ed.D.
20:57
Jessica, it’s really nice to see you!
Elise Mueller (DLI)
21:14
no problem Amanda!
Jessica Sperling, Ph.D.
21:42
Hello! I realize you have us muted :)
Kristin Goss
26:10
We’re not able to unmute
Hannah Jacobs she/her
26:10
Can’t unmute
Brandon Fain
26:20
^^^
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
26:25
Yes, we can’t unmute
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
27:02
Elise, would you mind to unmute me?
Jessica Sperling, Ph.D.
27:08
same
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
27:28
(Cant unmute)
Brandon Fain
27:33
I’m hoping to learn a good group size / way to collaborate for students on team projects, as students in my spring class identified that as a particular struggle.
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
27:41
Yes, I can hear, I can’t unmute
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
28:02
Thanks, Elise!
Brandon Fain
36:10
Did students want more office hours in theory, or were they actually more utilized? We experience this sometimes; students want more of them to be available if we ask, even if they don’t actually use them.
Elise Mueller (DLI)
36:34
I’ve heard that students showed up in many courses.
Elise Mueller (DLI)
37:33
But yes, knowing they could go puts them at ease even if they don’t go
Brandon Fain
43:35
Wow, neat!
Brandon Fain
45:13
We’re trying :)
Brandon Fain
47:05
The free rider problem was compounded in my class due to the S/U system, making our peer assessment more or less irrelevant to their grade. Hopefully that will be different this semester?
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
48:22
I have a few questions
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
48:34
But can’t unmute again
Brandon Fain
49:08
I think whenever we mute ourselves again to prevent random noises, we can’t unmute ourselves afterward.
Kristin Goss
49:40
Get this message: “The host is not allowing participants to unmute themselves.”
jeff derby
50:57
I also get this message
Elise Mueller (DLI)
51:32
just let me know if you want to be unmuted. I have it set up right but Zoom is not cooperating.
Jennifer Hill, Ed.D.
51:37
@Brandon, yes, we hope with the termination of the SU default that problem will improve a bit. S/U create A LOT of slackers, and thus inequity
Brandon Fain
51:44
Indeed, these are the *very hard* problems, Amanda. I’m going to try to catch all of your topics: (1) mental health issues, (2) equity and missing out from on campus / off campus, (3) illness on a team.
Hannah Jacobs she/her
52:34
Elise, I have a follow up on Amanda’s comments
Hannah Jacobs she/her
52:50
Can you unmute me?
Hannah Jacobs she/her
53:03
Thank you!
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
54:12
And if we are peer-grading, how do we do that? If a student prefers to keep their illness hidden (and I’ve heard many are b/c of stigma) how do we let their student team members to be generous and understanding?
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
55:35
Um, and faculty illness!
Lalita Kaligotla
56:52
I use peer evaluations for the team based work in my class as well. One thing I am considering doing for peer evaluations is to separate it from the grade or structure it as “extra-credit” given the atypical and challenging aspects to the semester ahead.
Elise Mueller (DLI)
58:06
you could also use qualitative feedback instead of quantitative
Stacy Tantum, Ph.D.
58:26
It almost seems like we need to think about setting things up such that no student is truly dependent on another student "doing their part" -- how does this mesh with "collaboration"?
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
59:03
Several things we are doing: 1. making teams a bit larger than normal to allow for inevitable issues 2. Revolving team roles so that no one is entirely responsible for one full aspect of the project 3. Self evaluations instead of team evaluations
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
59:21
I also, for Story+, told the student it was up to them to decide who to tell and how
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
59:54
So, for Story+, the students did indeed collaborate - and for my Spring course as well. So it is possible! And magical!
Hannah Jacobs she/her
01:00:06
I agree that smaller collaborative projects would be better — avoid big semester projects
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
01:00:30
We’re doing a mix of both for our fall class
Elise Mueller (DLI)
01:00:35
Magical, I like it!
Hannah Jacobs she/her
01:00:40
I also think Amanda’s right — larger than usual groups to pick up less work with small assignments
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
01:01:08
I’m muted
Jessica Sperling, Ph.D.
01:01:33
One thing we've done in certain cases is, where 1 group has fewer members, adjust the rubric / expectations for that group (reduce their expected scope a bit). Just a thought - perhaps this is relevant for possible illnesses etc
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
01:04:33
If they define their own success, it also helps make sure the students don’t feel they are competing against each other in their team and/or with other teams.
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
01:06:15
It is also sometimes those who need the most help who are least likely to ask for it
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
01:07:21
Collaborative projects allow the students to connect - and that seems critical right now
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
01:08:20
We are doing that by putting students together in pods as ‘thought-partners’ - they help each other and share their work but they are not technically working together
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
01:11:49
We designed exercises for students to get to know each other and they seemed to work. They were creating mini-projects together to get to know each other while making together
Carol Hee, Ph.D.
01:15:35
I can't un-mute myself b
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
01:15:58
Thank you, Elise and Jennifer for guiding us today!
Jennifer Hill, Ed.D.
01:16:23
Thanks for some great ideas for the group[
Amanda Starling Gould, PhD (she/her)
01:16:49
For Story+, we set up a range of various models and support systems and then let the individual teams and their ‘clients’ work together to devise which model of communication/collaboration would work best for them
Jessica Sperling, Ph.D.
01:16:51
I am also planning for a client-focused (community partner) product
Jessica Sperling, Ph.D.
01:17:07
happy to share if I can be unmuted!
Carol Hee, Ph.D.
01:19:36
Thank you everyone!
Jessica Sperling, Ph.D.
01:20:15
have to run, thanks all!!
Hannah Jacobs she/her
01:20:32
Thank you so much, Jennifer and Elise!
Meghan O'Neil
01:20:32
Elise -- Is there a way to save the chat? These questions comments are really useful!
Hannah Jacobs she/her
01:20:39
Great to learn from everyone hear!
Hannah Jacobs she/her
01:20:44
her
Hannah Jacobs she/her
01:20:46
here
jeff derby
01:21:03
very valuable, thanks